Lance Harvie Got Caught Lying on Reddit — And the Documentation Proves It

A first-person account of what happens when a recruitment consultant denies an agreement that's fully documented — in public, where everyone can read it.

Why Most Funnels Fail

There's a specific kind of arrogance that only surfaces when someone believes they'll never be held accountable.

It's the arrogance of a man who thinks blocking someone on every platform erases a paper trail. The arrogance of someone who, when confronted with timestamped evidence in a public forum, looks directly into the light and says: "Every material claim is false."

This is the story of Lance Harvie, founder of RuntimeRec — a recruitment agency focused on the Australian market but operating from Malaysia — and what happened when he decided to show up on Reddit and deny an agreement that I have documented in voice notes, emails, WhatsApp messages, and third-party press coverage.

I'm publishing this because he forced the issue. Not me.

The Original Situation

In mid-2024, Lance Harvie reached out to me. Not the other way around. He contacted me multiple times on LinkedIn, and we had several video calls where he explored sales strategy support and asked whether I could recommend a salesperson for his team.

I introduced him to Gareth Sampson — a strong candidate and an ideal fit for the SDR role Lance was trying to fill.

On July 22, I sent Lance a formal email introduction that included a recorded voice introduction from Gareth. Lance subsequently connected with Gareth on LinkedIn, arranged meetings, and progressed him into a trial with Runtime Recruitment.

Before the hire, Lance and I discussed a 10% finder's fee. This was confirmed by Lance in voice notes and WhatsApp messages. After interviewing Gareth, Lance sent me a recorded voice message explaining that he intended to hire Gareth and that the referral fee would be honored after an initial trial period.

When I later followed up to confirm the terms, the tone changed immediately.

I was told I was "attacking his integrity." He said there was "something wrong with your mate." He ended the conversation with: "We're done here. Have a good life."

Then he blocked me. WhatsApp. LinkedIn. Email. Every channel, simultaneously.

Gareth was hired. The referral fee was never paid.

I published a public account on Reddit, a blog post, and press releases through independent distribution networks. The evidence archive — containing emails, voice notes, WhatsApp exchanges, and the full timeline — was made publicly available.

That was Phase 1. A factual record. A warning to other founders and consultants. And then I moved on.

Until Lance decided to come back.

Lance Showed Up on Reddit — And Denied Everything

Months after the original post, Lance Harvie created a Reddit account under his own name and posted a response in the thread. His statement was unambiguous. He wrote:

"Every material claim in it is false."

He claimed:

  • I sent no email introduction.

  • I sent no resume.

  • I made no formal referral.

  • Gareth "contacted him directly and independently."

  • No percentage was ever discussed.

  • The claim of a 10% finder's fee was "completely fabricated."

  • He blocked me because of "threatening messages" and a "sustained campaign" against him and his staff.

He then stated he was pursuing legal action and had reported the post to Reddit.

This is where the story gets instructive — not because of the denial itself, but because of what the documentation reveals about the denial.

The Documentation Contradicts Every Key Claim

Here is what exists in the public record:

  • The email introduction exists. On July 22, I introduced Gareth to Lance via email. The email included Gareth's recorded voice introduction. This is timestamped and archived.

  • The LinkedIn connection followed the introduction. Gareth connected with Lance on LinkedIn after receiving my email introduction — not before, and not independently.

  • The voice note confirmation exists. After interviewing Gareth, Lance sent me a recorded voice message confirming his intent to hire and confirming the finder's fee arrangement.

  • The WhatsApp exchange exists. Messages between Lance and me discussing the referral and the fee are preserved in full.

  • The block sequence is documented. The abrupt shift from confirmation to accusation ("attacking my integrity") to termination ("we're done here") to full blocking across all platforms is recorded in the message history.

The full evidence archive is published here: https://drive.b2bgrowth.systems/s/Q8HHXXTdzfW8oos

So when Lance writes that "every material claim is false" and that the referral fee was "completely fabricated," he is making these statements in a public forum where the contradicting evidence is one click away.

That is not a defense. That is a gamble that no one will check.

The DARVO Pattern — Documented in Real Time

What makes Lance's Reddit response structurally significant is that it follows a well-documented behavioral pattern known as DARVO:

Deny — the agreement, the introduction, the fee, the entire referral chain.

Attack — reframe the person enforcing the agreement as a harasser sending "threatening messages."

Reverse Victim and Offender — position himself as the one being persecuted, while claiming blocking was "a necessary step to protect myself and my team."

This is not a psychological diagnosis. It is a structural observation. The documented exchange — voice notes, messages, emails, and timestamps — maps precisely to this framework. Anyone can read the thread in full and determine whether the sequence aligns.

The Reddit thread itself is the proof. Both sides spoke. Both sides are visible. The documentation sits between them.

Why This Matters Beyond One Unpaid Fee

This is not about money. The finder's fee, while owed, is not the point of this post.

The point is the pattern.

Lance Harvie runs a recruitment agency. His entire business model depends on trust — clients trust him to source talent, candidates trust him to represent them honestly, and partners trust him to honor commitments.

When that same person refuses to honor a basic referral agreement — and then publicly denies the agreement existed while the evidence is sitting in a public archive — it raises a question every potential client, candidate, and partner should ask:

If this is how he treats someone who helped him hire, how does he treat everyone else?

From my direct experience: Lance is polite and responsive when you're the one paying him. When you're a referral source, a partner, or someone whose value has already been extracted — you become disposable. The charm disappears. The blocking begins.

That selective integrity is the real warning.

The Public Record

This account has been independently documented and distributed across multiple platforms:

Press Coverage:

Syndication Mirrors:

Reddit Thread (full exchange including Lance's response and documented counter):

Full Evidence Archive:

Entity Links:

The Lesson for Founders and Consultants

If you're a founder, operator, or consultant who makes referrals — protect yourself. Here's what I learned:

  • Get referral terms in writing before making introductions. A verbal agreement backed by voice notes should be enough between professionals. It wasn't. Get a signed document. Always.

  • Watch for the charm-to-block pattern. When someone is warm and engaged while they need something from you, then hostile the moment you ask for what was promised — that's not a communication breakdown. That's a strategy.

  • Document everything from the first interaction. If I hadn't kept the emails, voice notes, and messages, Lance's Reddit denial would have been the only version of events. Documentation is not paranoia. It is sovereignty.

  • Silence protects the people who benefit from it. I chose not to stay silent. That decision led to a public thread where both sides spoke, the evidence was presented, and anyone can read the full exchange and decide for themselves.

Final Note

I didn't write this post out of bitterness. I wrote it because Lance Harvie showed up in a public forum, three months after the original post, and stated that "every material claim is false" — while the documentation proving otherwise is publicly accessible.

He could have stayed silent. He could have reached out privately. He could have honored the original agreement at any point in the last year.

Instead, he chose to deny. In public. Where the evidence lives.

That decision — not mine — created this post.

The record stands. The documentation is open. Readers can decide for themselves.

- James Carby Robinson

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